Harness bar and 6 point harness not allowed?

[michaelkrelina]

I am a newby in solo ....
Do I understand the rules correctly that in a closed car, a stock Corvette Z06, 2003, a 3 point belt is acceptable but a 6 point harness with a harness bar are not?
One actually must have a full roll bar to be able to use a racing seat with a 6 point harness?
Without such a roll bar one must stick with a standard seat, a standard 3 point belt and no Hans?
I would appreciate if someone would help clarify these points.
Thanks
Mike

[bjackson]

I am not sure what the rules are, but I would never run a car with a harness without a proper roll bar. If the car were to flip and the roof crush in, you will likely die of a neck injury. You cannot move to the side with a harness, while you still can with a 3 point belt. This is a safety thing and probably not obvious to most.

Bruce

[ScotcH]

You are allowed to use DOT approved 4 point harnsses desigend for street use ... Schroth has some with proper buckles that release or something. You are also allowed to use a racing seat, but cannot use 5 or 6 point belts unless you have a roll bar or cage.

[rmicroys]

Been here, done that, you don't want the tee shirt...




This crash had the occupants wearing normal seatbelts. They 'walked away' from the accident from what I understand. Had one had 6pt belts, I doubt one would have been that lucky.

[craig]

I am a newby in solo ....
Do I understand the rules correctly that in a closed car, a stock Corvette Z06, 2003, a 3 point belt is acceptable but a 6 point harness with a harness bar are not?
One actually must have a full roll bar to be able to use a racing seat with a 6 point harness?
Without such a roll bar one must stick with a standard seat, a standard 3 point belt and no Hans?
I would appreciate if someone would help clarify these points.
Thanks
Mike

Hi Mike:

First of all, I just want to make sure that by "Solo," that you're referring to SoloSprint/Time Trials (on race tracks), and not autocross (in parking lots). The rules in this area are quite different. So:

Harness bars: All designs that were on the market when the rule was written were not acceptable. However, something new may have come out. If so, then a case can be made. If you are an MCO member (sorry, I don't know), then I'll be the one making it. PM me and we'll get it worked out.

If you are wearing a HANS (i.e., w/FIA certification), and have a HANS-approved harness and installation that does not use a rollbar, then, again, PM me and we'll get it worked out.

As an aside, the four-point belts that ScotcH is referring to are vehicle and model-year specific, and are not generic race belts. They can be run safely with no rollbar, but, again, a case must be made and the appropriate documentation submitted. Again, PM me.

Thanks!